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Posted: 11:27 - 06 Jul 2023 Post subject: |
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Outboards can be as much PIA as motorbikes. But you canny push a boat to the petrol station.
The most reliable are 4 stroke.
They need more maintenance than bikes.
When they come out the water the cooling system needs to be flushed with fresh water and added inhibitor if you want.
Small 3 cylinder. Would be good.
Most have electronic ignition.
I think fuel injection too.
Fuel needs to be spotless clean and fresh.
Dirty/stale fuel can leave you stranded.
Make sure the engine is matched to the boat.
Hull size and shape.
Bigger engine/s might not mean faster when it comes to boats.
Buy and use life jackets. It's embarrassing to be hauled out the water lifeless. ____________________ Disclaimer: The comments above may be predicted text and not necessarily the opinion of MCN. |
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Same issues as bikes. There is a lot of chinese shite out there.
Buying second hand, I'd go for one being sold by a marina ona freshwater lake off one of their rescue boats. They'll usually have been regularly serviced and haven't been exposed to salt.
My Dad always used to have problems with the water cooling impellars corroding/seizing on outboards. Also nobody ever changes the gearbox oil in them.
There are the usual Japanese makes, same as motorbikes. Tohatsu also seem to do a decent budget motor. ____________________ “Rule one: Always stick around for one more drink. That's when things happen. That's when you find out everything you want to know.”
I did the 2010 Round Britain Rally on my 350 Bullet. 89 landmarks, 3 months, 9,500 miles. |
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Aye, an old seagull would be fun to work on, super simple. The outboard equivalent of a CG125.
As above, hard to know why you'd want a 2t unless it's one of the utterly bonkers 250bhp+ fuel injected V5 things the Yanks like to put on small pleasure craft. A wee tohatsu/evinrude/yamaha 4t will purr along all day long and you won't find yourself hanging over the back of the transom in a 10ft swell trying to change a fucking sparkplug. ____________________ “Rule one: Always stick around for one more drink. That's when things happen. That's when you find out everything you want to know.”
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Oh yeah. The recoiling pull starts fuck up for fun too, usually at the least oppertune moment so if it doesn't have an electric start, make sure that's in good order and put a new rope on it long before it starts looking worn. Unless you get a seagull where you just wrap any old bit fo rope around the pulley, you can start those with a shoelace. ____________________ “Rule one: Always stick around for one more drink. That's when things happen. That's when you find out everything you want to know.”
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My Dad had a similar one for messing about in and yes, 5hp is more than sufficient.
It's got a semi-solid bottom to the hull with a slight V so you'll probably even get it up on the plane. Most of them just have a soft bottom with a bit of wood on the inside. ____________________ “Rule one: Always stick around for one more drink. That's when things happen. That's when you find out everything you want to know.”
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I have a small inflatable that I use on the Thames and occasional jaunts on the salty stuff. I’ve popped across to the Isle of Wight a few times and went exploring the west coast of Scotland.
I’ve got a little Honwave T38 which is a fully inflatable model with a high-pressure floor so there’s no fecking about with aluminium panels and stringers. Just drag it out of the car, inflate and go. If you want to carry dogs or do lots of fishing, the boats with ply or aluminium floors might be more suitable.
I have 2 engines for mine. For the river I use a little 6hp Yamaha four stroke. It’s quiet(ish), non-smoky and very frugal on fuel. The Thames speed limit is 5mph and with 2 people and a picnic that engine would struggle to break the limit. Solo it will just about get the boat up and planing to about 13mph, but like a 125 bike you wouldn’t want a headwind or it’ll slow down.
For more spirited hooning out at sea I have a 25hp 2T. It’s badged as Mariner, but actually made by Tohatsu. It’s noisy and gulps fuel but smells great and goes like stink. It’ll get the boat on plane with four adults and I’ve had 30mph out of it solo. Which in a boat of that size feels terrifyingly fast.
Outboards and bike engines aren’t very comparable. Pushing a boat through water is significantly harder that pushing a rolling chassis through air. So the outboards tend to be designed with a lower horsepower per CC than a bike. For example my 25hp engine is a 430cc twin. On a bike you’d expect a massively higher HP, but I assume the outboard is designed to deliver the best balance of torque and power to run in that environment.
For most small boats you want a short shaft.
Be aware of weight. My boat and 25hp are a little over 50kg each. That’s right on the limit for what I can safely lift (as a sedentary middle-aged bloke). I can move them around ok, but always use a trolley to move them any distance. The 6hp is 27kg which is an easy one-hand carry.
These days the sweet spot for a small inflatable boat engine seems to be the modern Japanese 20hp 4T engines. They weigh in at round 47kg, sip fuel and are virtually silent at tickover. ____________________ 2016 CBF1000F - Commuter heaven | 1994 CBR600FR - Awaiting defibrillation |
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