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New EU federation state do you support the creation of it? |
Yes what happens to EU is matter of EU parliament |
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42% |
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No if EU does that UK will leave ECHR and the Solar system |
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7% |
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Don't know and care |
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28% |
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Like Farage I support Putin & Russian federation from Ural to the Atlantic ocean |
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Posted: 17:51 - 30 Jan 2024 Post subject: New EU federation state do you support it? |
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The changes currently under consideration would transform the EU from a confederation of sovereign countries into a unitary federal entity, with its central government presiding over partially self-governing nation states.
In Europe, the treaty revision process is already underway with fundamental changes in 10 key areas, including EU foreign, security and defense policy. And as a concrete step toward such changes, a Committee on Constitutional Affairs report, which will form the European Parliament’s inputat a treaty revision convention, was recently approved
https://www.europarl.europa.eu/news/sv/press-room/20231023IPR08163/eu-treaties-reform-meps-submit-proposals-to-strengthen-eu-capacity-to-act ____________________ Adrian Monk: Unless I'm wrong, which, you know, I'm not...
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Posted: 18:15 - 30 Jan 2024 Post subject: |
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Wow... looks like we got out just in time ____________________ Husqvarna Vitpilen 401, Yamaha XSR700, Honda Rebel, Yamaha DT175, Suzuki SV650 (loan) Fazer 600, Keeway Superlight 125, 50cc turd scooter |
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Posted: 18:54 - 30 Jan 2024 Post subject: |
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You wonder why Brexit. THIS is excactly why.
While members, the UK would have vetoed the shit out of it but there were and are moves afoot to seriously limit veto powers of member states and there's only so long you can hold stuff like this back. Got out while we still could.
Plus, if other member state MEPs are anything like the calliber of the UK ones, they shouldn't really be left in charge of anything, let alone running a continent-sized federal state. Being an MEP for the UK was a shit-tier political appointment populated by ineffective handwringers and people of outlying political persuasions who couldn't hack it in an actual job of politics. Turnout for elections was low as there was no appetite for turning out to dignify the list of halfwits, ideallists and misfits with something that looked like a mandate. European council appointments were either a way of getting rid of troublemakers or outright cronyism.
Best of luck to them. Enjoy life in the circus clown version of the 4th Reich. ____________________ “Rule one: Always stick around for one more drink. That's when things happen. That's when you find out everything you want to know.”
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Posted: 19:34 - 30 Jan 2024 Post subject: |
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Gives us a big German-led rival on our doorstep. No doubt they'll start building up a euro-army then too.
As long as they keep visa free travel though I wont be too concerned ____________________ Daddystu
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The whittling, bleeding-heart, Guardian-reading remainers have little idea of what they are really missing...
..which is really fuck-nothing.
Everyone still gets holidays for cheap in the med and roam like home their phone. .
..they may wank on about how the kids can no longer join 'Erasmus' but the uptake in the Uk was neglible anyway. You can even get residency easily enough if you wnat to spend more than 180 days/year in your second EU home.. Today I hear we have rejoined Horizon european research programs cheme (not that we actaully left) but frankly I'm sceptical about that, and think we could have spen the money better ourselves .This year our tapered residual contribution to EU budget drops from 12bn to 2bn ( I think) so now we also get some financial reward for the break.
Some small businesses trading with EU will have unfortunately been disadvantaged since, as a trading co-op, the EEC was a decent idea but the gravy train merchants like Martin Shultz, van Rompey, Delors etc.. pushed it too far. For now, for 99% of folk - I still think we're better off out..
While we're at it - Brexit was what won the Tories the last election. Nothing else. Now its done and Labour have vowed not to meddle they will be a shoe-in and probably rightly so. ____________________ Now: A100, GT250A, XJ598, FZ750
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Posted: 10:38 - 31 Jan 2024 Post subject: |
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DaddyStu wrote: | Gives us a big German-led rival on our doorstep. No doubt they'll start building up a euro-army then too.
As long as they keep visa free travel though I wont be too concerned |
Also stronger EU with an army will keep russians away.
Last time I have checked we are allies in NATO. EU is not a militray rival to the UK in any form unless you are Farage or Trump supporting Russia. That is a fact.
As I have said:
Quote: | NATO will be stronger with stronger EU army. What is the problem with having stronger army supporting the free west democracy from Russia? Unless you are the traitors Trump and Farage supporting Putin I don't see the problem here? seriously why you guys want the West to be weaker? Do explain.
The European Union has a mix of 30 kinds of tanks, 20 types of planes, and 27 different military offices. The U.S., on the other hand, has just one military headquarters and fewer kinds of tanks and planes. If European countries shared their military resources and worked together more, they might be stronger within NATO and less reliant on the U.S. |
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Posted: 12:09 - 31 Jan 2024 Post subject: |
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The large western EU countries Germany, Netherlands, Italy, Spain (France not so much) have consistently underpaid their required contribution to Nato/Armed forces which I thnk is 2% GDP.. Now the nasty man has appeared at the door -panic.
Typical EU thinking, even though we're not contributing enough to Nato we'll focus on an alternative with all the additonal bureaucratic overhead that that requires. ____________________ Now: A100, GT250A, XJ598, FZ750
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They will blow most of their budget on designing the uniform. It will take five years of discussion and the issuing of three sub-comittees to standardise the design of the great big hat, one for the material construction, one for the optiomal peak andgle and one to decide the source of gold braid and feathers. Then Italy will pull-out because they want more gold braid than everyone else. ____________________ “Rule one: Always stick around for one more drink. That's when things happen. That's when you find out everything you want to know.”
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RhynoCZ wrote: | In order to have a federation, you would first need a constitution. The last time someone tried to push that in the EU was in 2004 and the attempt failed, quite presumably. Now, why would it be any different this time around? Especially in the time when the political cycle in many countries is now in the phase of change from the left to the right.
Mind you, 2004 was also a completely different time. Everything seemed hopeful and people in general had a positive approach to building the union. It was also before the Greece issue and many other such inconveniences. |
If you don't want the russians to march in Prague again you should support EU army. What kind of plonker hates EU so much he is prepared to support russians instead? What is wrong with you people?
Meanwhile Trump just said he would encourage Russia to attack NATO allies: Quote: | I said I would not protect our NATO allies. In fact, I would encourage Russia to do whatever the hell they want. |
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Val wrote: | RhynoCZ wrote: | In order to have a federation, you would first need a constitution. The last time someone tried to push that in the EU was in 2004 and the attempt failed, quite presumably. Now, why would it be any different this time around? Especially in the time when the political cycle in many countries is now in the phase of change from the left to the right.
Mind you, 2004 was also a completely different time. Everything seemed hopeful and people in general had a positive approach to building the union. It was also before the Greece issue and many other such inconveniences. |
If you don't want the russians to march in Prague again you should support EU army. What kind of plonker hates EU so much he is prepared to support russians instead? What is wrong with you people? |
I'm not entirely sure what you're on about. Having an EU army is a completely different question than trying to create a federation. I would be very careful about federalisation of the EU. The EU citizens being not quite happy about the EU bureaucracy and ''dictate from above'' today, imagine what would they say then, in a European Federation.
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