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Excuse the profanity.....The PC squad just angers me when they try to tell you how to think. |
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I belive there are subjects that science should leave well alone, cloning for instance.
Say there is proof that white men are more intelligent than black men, were will it end?
How long before white people are given preference over black people for university places because science says they are
genetically smarter and more likely to succeed?
As craigie b himself said 'we don't have fucking mongoloids flying aircraft, or quadroplegic bus drivers, bank managers who cannot add, driving instructors who can't drive. People have equal rights and liberties but that does not make them equal in stature or fucking ability'
So if in this world were we have labeled black people as less intelligent if a black man gets chosen over a white person for a position of a bus driver
He crashes the bus does this mean all the passengers can sue the bus company because they did not hire a white driver?
The fact is no society other than a racist one will ever declare the fact that one race is better smarter faster than another, as it would lead down a very dangerous path.
Societys have to think of the whole rather than pander to a single section of its community.
Does anyone understand this concept or im just just talking to bnp fanboys. ____________________ ****NORTHERN IRELAND NEWSFLASH!!**** According to a recent survey, 94% of loyalists said the best sex they ever had was in the shower; the other 6% haven't been to jail yet.*** |
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So if you were a person of power, you would be forcing people to think and do as you saybecause you obviously know whats better for people. Can't you understand why this is wrong? |
No i merely belive that people who try to prove through dubious methods that other races are weaker dumber should not be allowed to spread their idea's.
They can think all they want i just belive its in the common good that they keep their dangerous ideals to themselves.
craigie b "BTW that is the single worst made up example I believe I have ever read"
Well that may be an extreme example of what could happen but perfectly possible if people like yourself were in power who then suddenly declared that all black people were just not as intelligent as us whiteys.
Well heres another example, What would happen to all the black doctors and nurses in the nhs?
Are they going to issue a leaflet when you enter care that if you wait a week you can have a white doctor but you can have a black doctor right away 'we just need you to sign a consent form in case of any complications' ?
kickstart im glad you brought that up in their assessment of Asian intelligence vs American intelligence, they compare students of both groups.
The results show that the Asian students have higher IQs, and according to the authors, that makes them more intelligent. But the authors coveniently, perhaps too conveniently, overlooked the fact that in many parts of Asia, only the most able students proceed on through the grades--students who do poorly are weeded out in earlier years and trained in other areas.
So by high school, only the smartest students are still enrolled in academic schools. Naturally, if you compare these students with American high school students, who are not weeded out (so you have a mix of very bright to rather dumb and everything in between), the Asian students will statistically appear smarter. But are they smarter genetically? No, it's just that their less intelligent kids are not included in the study. And of course, factors such as cultural work ethic, which greatly enhance IQ, are not properly considered. B. What of the fact that Native Americans, who genetically are closest to Asians, and who generally have a lot of European genes mixed in, also score lowly? Conveniently, they are not even included in the author's studies. There is a similar issue with Hispanics. ____________________ ****NORTHERN IRELAND NEWSFLASH!!**** According to a recent survey, 94% of loyalists said the best sex they ever had was in the shower; the other 6% haven't been to jail yet.*** |
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Hi
So using a specific country to avoid more unknowns debunks it? The opposite would be more likely.
Whether it is genetic, cultural background related, diet or (quite possibly the most likely) poorly developed IQ tests is not really the point. A difference has been found. Research will find the cause, unless everyone is too scared and instead sticks their head in the sand.
All the best
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Quote: | No i merely belive that people who try to prove through dubious methods that other races are weaker dumber should not be allowed to spread their idea's.
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Wow what a fabrication!!!! I love the way you just pluck stories from thin air.
Look at what you have written....You clearly state people who try to prove other races are dumber shouldn't be allowed to spread their ideas......
1.Dr Ellis at no point states he used the Bell curve theory to build up his theory so can you point out how you know his methods are dubious?
You will note that he has expressed support for it however he personally says "data stretching back 100 years points to a "persistent deviation" in the average IQ of black and white people"
https://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/education/4785574.stm
2. Quote: | They can think all they want i just belive its in the common good that they keep their dangerous ideals to themselves. |
So you are the man to dictate what is dangerous and what isn't? Who made you lord of the fucking minds??
3. Quote: | Well that may be an extreme example of what could happen but perfectly possible if people like yourself were in power who then suddenly declared that all black people were just not as intelligent as us whiteys. |
At which point in my conversation have I remotely suggested that if this happened to be true I would instigate an intelligence cull? At least please answer this one
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Are they going to issue a leaflet when you enter care that if you wait a week you can have a white doctor but you can have a black doctor right away 'we just need you to sign a consent form in case of any complications' ? |
Can you back up this amazingly unsubstanciated theory of yours or is it another made up example with no basis in evidence? |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 18 years, 54 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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