SORN in my side

that_impulse_guy · Scooby Slapper Joined: 07 Mar 2023 Karma :

I bought a bike. yay me, it has been standing in a shed since before the millenium (tis is IMPORTANT)

Got v5 in my name, yay me...made it SORN online, got SORN successfull email with referernce number

Wait 5 days...DVLA website still doesnt show it as SORN..says UNtaxed.

SORN it again online, why not! Get SORN successfull message, get SORN reference number...waited another 5 days...DVLA website still says untaxed.

Get hold of DVLA on webchat.
the man on the other end of the internet tells me:
"The Statutory Off Road Notification (SORN) scheme only applies to vehicles when the tax expired on or after the 31st January 1998 in Great Britain. This is because the law changed at this time. As your vehicle was untaxed before this date it doesn’t need to be declared SORN. It will only become liable to SORN if it is re-taxed and then subsequently taken off the road."

yay!!!? It technically CANT be sorned.

Today a letter comes in the post, from mr dvla...threatening me that if I dont SORN it, theres a big fine coming my way.

sigh.
fukk'em
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Capt Sisko · Two Stroke Sniffer Joined: 22 Jan 2022 Karma :

The before '98 bit is correct, but I thought the new owner had to declare a SORN when the bike changed ownership. i.e. the SORN is no transferable.

stinkwheel · Bovine Proctologist Joined: 12 Jul 2004 Karma :

I had similar. I bought a bike that's been off the road since 1997. As per the notes for guidance, I sent off the change of owner documents and a SORN declaration.

The V5 came back eventually. Some time later, my SORN declaration was returned along with a letter saying I do not need to declare SORN on that vehicle.

About 2 weeks after that, a threatening letter arrived saying I MUST tax or SORN the vehicle or face prosecution.

So, I have in my posession a letter from the DVLA saying the vehicle doesn't need to be SORNed AND have documentary proof that I not only did make a SORN but also that the DVLA received it and the date on which it was received by them (in the form of my returned SORN form bearing the DVLAs received date stamp). As such, I really do hope prosecution will be forthcoming because I have a cast iron defence and it will give me an oppertunity to make the DVLAs prosecutor look like a fool in court.
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that_impulse_guy · Scooby Slapper Joined: 07 Mar 2023 Karma :

I'm trying to read between the lines here..because I'm not 100% I'll win this one, even though I seem to be the winner. Lets work this out

I must tax or sorn a vehicle, or face a fine

I cant sorn this vehicle.

ergo, the law would say I MUST tax it.

that the defense for the prosecution.

Now, the defence for the...ermm. defendant.

I tried to sorn it, I couldnt.

your honour says: well, then you shouldve tax'd it..then sorn it.

m'lord, I would lose 1 months tax fee, as thats the maximum refund.

prosecutor: tough titty.
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pdg · World Chat Champion Joined: 15 Sep 2012 Karma :

Yeah, nothing will happen.

One of my bikes is showing a big red square saying "untaxed, tax due 1st April 1983".

It's said that since I got it 12 years ago...

DVLA also told me that the previous tax expiration was too old to sorn and not to worry about it, so I never have.

One day it'll be in a position for me to shell out the £0 to tax it Wink

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sickpup · Old Timer Joined: 21 Apr 2004 Karma :

You are only required to notify of SORN which you have and have an email notification. You are NOT required to make sure DVLA update their systems.