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BanditsHigh Worse than a woman
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Posted: 13:11 - 03 Oct 2023 Post subject: |
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It's not ideal that's for sure and you won't know until you try teh new bearings - if you have to use these wheels then I'd get some loctite 'bearing fit' in advance to take up any slack.
On a simlair note I had soem wheels blasted and they blasted the brake disc mounting surface this made me think that if I ever mounted a disc it migh clamp down unevenly and promote premature warpage - I ended up not using that wheel so I never found out, ____________________ Now: A100, GT250A, XJ598, FZ750
Then: Fizz, RS200, KL250, XJ550, Laverda Alpina, XJ600, FZS600 |
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BanditsHigh Worse than a woman
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Posted: 13:22 - 03 Oct 2023 Post subject: |
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^^^ All the wheels I've had done had the brake disc surfaces blasted, never had a problem
I'm going to be ever so slightly annoyed if they have buggered them!
Paid for with cash, so no official record of the transaction, only have my word and the friends that gave me a lift to drop them off / pick them up.
I'll need to try fitting the new bearings, they may feel okay going in but no guarantee that the fit is correct.
I'll have a look at the loctite stuff, but that feels like a bit of a bodge, it's one thing on a small bike another on a big bike (GSX1400).
Anyhoo, thanks for the feedback, appreciated.
All the best ... Barry |
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Posted: 18:00 - 03 Oct 2023 Post subject: |
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Locktite have some good products for this as has been mentioned. not the 'thread locker' stuff but actual bearing fit compounds designed to reduce slack and tighten fits up. They even have one product thats actually used for woodruff key repairs on engines where its not cost effective to replace the crank.
What id suggest is turning up at a small engineering company with the wheels on you 'as you were passing' and ask them if they could measure the ID's of the bearing surfaces now, then you'l know for a fact if they are still within bearing fit tolerances. Common rule of thumb is a thou interference per inch of bearing outer race diameter but your bearing manufacturer will have housing fits tables on their website if you want more certain numbers.
as for the actual surface finish, so long as its even and they havent ovaled the bore blasting one section more then I wouldnt expect it to cause a problem. ____________________ own: 81 xs1100g...
owned: 85 rat CG (sold), 91 GS500e (stolen), 84 gsx400f (scrapped), 81 z250 (siezed, siezed, scrapped), 83 cb250rs (sold), 84 gpz750r ratfighter (killed) 84gpz400 (sold), '80 cb650 ratfighter (wrote off) 95gsx6/12f ratfighter (killed) 91 xj900 (sold)
stinkwheel Well I just had my hands up a pigs fanny. Which makes your concerns pale into insignificance. |
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Posted: 19:17 - 03 Oct 2023 Post subject: |
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Green bearing fit isn't a bodge if used within it's specified tolerances.
I use permabond A118 on some of the very poorly fitting wheel bearings on my enfield. I also have it on the slightly undersize cam spindle which has been in place for over 6,000 miles now. In both of these cases they are a press fit, but not much of a press while still being a fair bit short of the next oversize.
It claims a maximum fill of 0.005" and a breakaway torque of 33Nm. ____________________ “Rule one: Always stick around for one more drink. That's when things happen. That's when you find out everything you want to know.”
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I had a wheel bearing issue on my ER5, when I had one (long time ago). You could grab the rear wheel in your hand and rock it side to side by several mm. I changed the bearings myself, but the problem remained. First, I thought the new bearings were at fault, but I checked the size, went back to the seller, looked up the specs and they were the correct C5 fit. I took the bike to a mechanic, and he removed the new bearings, put something called bearing setting glue in, and that fixed it. It would probably insure against any problems in your case as well.
It's a shame they ruined the bearing setting seats. I would give the appropriate compound or glue a go, and if it doesn't work, get another wheel. |
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BanditsHigh wrote: | ^^^ All the wheels I've had done had the brake disc surfaces blasted, never had a problem
I'm going to be ever so slightly annoyed if they have buggered them!
Paid for with cash, so no official record of the transaction, only have my word and the friends that gave me a lift to drop them off / pick them up.
I'll need to try fitting the new bearings, they may feel okay going in but no guarantee that the fit is correct.
I'll have a look at the loctite stuff, but that feels like a bit of a bodge, it's one thing on a small bike another on a big bike (GSX1400).
Anyhoo, thanks for the feedback, appreciated.
All the best ... Barry |
It's Loctite Retaining Compoud they have High Strength and Strength.
Prepped and applied the parts need to be pressed out.
It's an OEM approved method for many fits. ____________________ Disclaimer: The comments above may be predicted text and not necessarily the opinion of MCN. |
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