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Posted: 20:01 - 25 Jan 2024 Post subject: Re: Nottingham Stabbings |
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bhinso wrote: | the prosecution claimed they had consulted with, and got agreement from, all victims families that manslaughter was the best way forward.
But yet the news headlines at lunchtime were 'families furious about manslaughter plea'. |
Current reports say the families were only told in November that it would be manslaughter, and the families had no say in it.
It’s an odd term though, “manslaughter”.
Quote: | The crime of killing a human being without malice aforethought.’ |
I don’t think ‘without malice’ applies to this or similar cases where the killer is said to have “diminished responsibility due to mental illness.” You could argue that anyone who kills has a screw loose, -unless it was in defence, maybe? The voices told him to do it, but he did it.
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Quote: | If you are charged with murder and can show that you had an 'abnormality of the mind' when you committed the crime, the court will convict you of manslaughter instead. This could mean less punishment. This is called 'diminished responsibility.’ |
“Manslaughter” might also imply that if he can show recovery he’ll be out early. “He’s better now, it’s all ok,” when what he did can never be undone. |
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It entirely depends on case circumstances.
Some get locked up and they throw the key away.
If they were very young at the time of the offence they might outlive the sentence.
Premeditated murders, serial killings, those proved to be psychopaths/sociopaths get more tailored sentencing.
It is possible to murder someone and not get a full life sentence too.
Manslaughter is very clearly not murder. That simply.when you do or cause someone's death. Accidental killing has to be allowed. Such is life.
I believe a nice touch would be for those who agree to set monsters free on licence, serve the remainder of the sentence, if the person that they released re-offends.
That might give them pause. ____________________ Disclaimer: The comments above may be predicted text and not necessarily the opinion of MCN. |
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A lifetime in a mental institution sounds unnecessarily cruel. What I can't work out is the same people who claim hanging is evil and wrong also claim there are too many people on the planet
I suggest we hang all the child molesters, murderers and nutters, check the numbers and if we need cull more we can move down the list ____________________ Husqvarna Vitpilen 401, Yamaha XSR700, Honda Rebel, Yamaha DT175, Suzuki SV650 (loan) Fazer 600, Keeway Superlight 125, 50cc turd scooter |
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It seems even the powers that be aren't happy as to how it has been handled. With good reason in my view.
Valdo Calocane: Review into decision to accept triple killer's pleas
A review of the decision by prosecutors to accept manslaughter pleas in the Nottingham attacks case has been ordered by the attorney general.
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