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[zaknafien]

Battleship's were made obsolete years ago, having the biggest gun's on the open sea's no longer matter's.
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[dibbster]

I went to a talk on the type 45's at the back end of last year by a guy from BAE.

The ship was built in three seperate sections and then put together at Clyde.
Alll the cabins were built seperately and are self contained boxes which are loaded into the ship then bolted together. There are alot of clever aspects to it but there does seem to have been alot of comprimise to keep the project on budget.
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[Mister James]

[killa]

No ones told me if the type 45’s got an oven yet….

I don’t think you’ve thought about how big I’m thinking the battleship would be, he he.
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[Mister James]

[killa]

Sorry James, just messing....
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[zaknafien]

[Mister James]

Quite - ask the Yamato!

Russian tactics for dealing with the American CBGs involved swarm tactics with massive anti-ship missiles. All those big steel cans floating on the water were lovely targets.

Failing that, a tactical nuke would do the trick quite nicely.
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[sickpup]

[Mister James]

And my point was that something smaller and cheaper is just as easily taken out, without having been as much use in the first place.

Very few navies in the world actually have the technology and expertise to sneak through a US CVN's escort screen and cripple or sink it, and most of those are western navies unlikely to ever go into action against the Yanks. (until we all get taken over by Sharia governments!)

Most wargames were we've embarassed the Yanks have actually been designed to handicap the American forces to even the playing field, and fall in line with 'Train Hard, Fight Easy' doctrine.
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[Lost_Prophet]

in terms of advancement are the 45's a giant leap ahead of the 42's, and how long will the technology be 'in-date' for, if something like that can be measured,

and yes the americans have a bigger possibly better fleet than us, but the simple fact is that they have the man-power and money to build a fleet like that, where as we dont.

and if we did have a fleet equal to that of the americans, we would'nt have enough people to man every ship.

but are we going to have a war with america any time soon?

and so there forces as a whole are bigger, but ours tend to be better trained
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[Mister James]

That's an oft-repeated mantra, and it's true in many cases. What people forget to factor in is that a large amount of that training is negated by the fact we are forced to make do with technologically inferior hardware.

While individual units often perform comparably (or better) to superior american units, overall their firepower, intel capability and taskforce flexibility are all far beyond our own.

That not only has an impact on the unlikely situation of fighting them, it means our abilities to stage unilateral operations are reduced.

When the Harrier is pensioned off in the near future, we'll have no organic airsupport for the fleet - thus being reliant on the Yanks or Frogs for CAP cover.
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[Lost_Prophet]

but we're still better trained

the thing we are forced to make do becasue this country does'nt produce as much 'disposable income' to keep up to date, or ahead of date.

its just not high enough on the country's list of things to do, to make us more technicogically (SP*) advanced, for the means of fighting, defending and peacekeeping
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[Mister James]

You misunderstand me. I'm quite aware of the disparity in UK/US defence budgets, my point is that it's all very well harping on about being better trained, but one has to remember a lot of that superior training and know-how is negated making up for our relatively crummy gear.
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[Lost_Prophet]

agreed

sucks does'nt it
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[Mister James]

[WishayKillie]

The Yanks have aperently been having a lot of problems with the JSF. They had big problems with the VTOL and had to go to Rolls-Royce for an answer and they gave them the lift fan installed just behind the pilot and now the yanks are giving the engine contract to GE and not the shared Pratt & Whitney, RR contract. Cunts!
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[WildGoose]

[WildGoose]

this is interesting

https://www.mod.uk/DefenceInternet/DefenceNews/DefencePolicyAndBusiness/LordDraysonJsfOperationalSovereigntyIsVitalForUkDefenceInterests.htm

basically, if they dont give us access to what they want, they can shove it, written in far nicer terms
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[Mister James]

Aye on all counts Goose, especially your predicted squadron service date for the JSF - you only have to look to the Typhoon program to see that we've no hope of it sticking to schedule.

The Drayson report was interesting, and spot on. I believe that when Condi was asked about it, she hinted that a deal would be struck, so hopefully that will be soon. I don't think the US can afford to constantly keep slapping us in the face, considering the military and diplomatic over-stretch they are facing.

If they have security concerns, I would suggest it's far more likely a chinese spy would be able to get access to the JSF data at their end, than we would be to allow it to escape into the public domain.
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[Scorpius]

Agreed. There shouldn't even be any need for political pressure considering the military support they have been recieving over the last few years. They must by now be learning that their power does indeed have limits.

ps Goose or James either of you guys have any links to detailed info on the JSF?
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[WildGoose]

https://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/f-35.htm

https://www.airforce-technology.com/projects/jsf/

https://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/aircraft/f-35.htm

that should keep you satisfied, but cant guarantee the accuracy of any of it
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[zaknafien]

https://www.jsf.mil/
https://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/jsf.htm
https://www.airforce-technology.com/projects/jsf/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F-35_Joint_Strike_Fighter
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[WildGoose]

arf
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